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Post by Dyna / Lucifa on Feb 23, 2006 20:17:37 GMT -5
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Post by Bleeker on Feb 24, 2006 3:03:03 GMT -5
where has subtelty gone? sux :-((( like the spirit thingy though. should be quite usefull. but rather be able to manage my aggro better.
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Post by Bleeker on Feb 24, 2006 3:26:31 GMT -5
actually looking more at it now its even more crappy than i thought. lightwell?! thats pretty useless!!
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Post by William on Feb 24, 2006 5:03:02 GMT -5
Could just be me but I allways seem to hate changes, just like UO was getting worse every update Improved Vampiric embrace for 10% seems to suck to me, a 1300 Mind blast crit would heal you for 286 instead of 260.... I cant see how Greater heal is usefull now even if its faster to cast unless you have a tank with 15.000 hp. My Gheals crit for 5500 allready atm so either you overheal like crazy or risk the tank dying on the next dmg burst Maybe if our pallies would heal ALL the time with their short heal to keep the tank near full hp it might be viable but I doubt AF would do that Not taking Unbreakable Will instead of +25% wand Dyna? Maybe +wand is nice if you want to be afk a lot Bleeker Subtlety is gone but now Silent relove in Disc tree gives lower aggro on dmg AND holy spells so thats a free 5 talent points really. I dont really see the need for it unless you want to do DPS on raids which most wont let you anyway. The Well thingie seems pretty stupid to me aswell but you can cast it before a boss so your cheap rogues dont need to use bandies... I kinda hate loosing focused casting for pvp tbh Going to spec shadow again though now I can take Meditation without needing tier 2 set bonus for the mana regen. Starting to wonder how much dmg I would do though with Power Infusion + ZHC + ToEP But since I dont have either trinket and hate cooldown pvp I doubt I will... Only spend 2 mins on it but probably going for something like this: www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/priests2/talents.html?50022213300000020000000000000000502324103511031Only loose Mental Strentgh and Spiritual Healing for raiding but both are overrated imo since they dont take into account your mana from items or +healing on them (so they help on a priest in lvl 50 greens the most...) If pvp is too boring still I might even go raid shadow spec and try convince people I should be doing dps in raids Sorry Tical ;D
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Post by Bleeker on Feb 24, 2006 5:47:01 GMT -5
Could just be me but I allways seem to hate changes, just like UO was getting worse every update Improved Vampiric embrace for 10% seems to suck to me, a 1300 Mind blast crit would heal you for 286 instead of 260.... I cant see how Greater heal is usefull now even if its faster to cast unless you have a tank with 15.000 hp. My Gheals crit for 5500 allready atm so either you overheal like crazy or risk the tank dying on the next dmg burst Maybe if our pallies would heal ALL the time with their short heal to keep the tank near full hp it might be viable but I doubt AF would do that Not taking Unbreakable Will instead of +25% wand Dyna? Maybe +wand is nice if you want to be afk a lot Bleeker Subtlety is gone but now Silent relove in Disc tree gives lower aggro on dmg AND holy spells so thats a free 5 talent points really. I dont really see the need for it unless you want to do DPS on raids which most wont let you anyway. The Well thingie seems pretty stupid to me aswell but you can cast it before a boss so your cheap rogues dont need to use bandies... I kinda hate loosing focused casting for pvp tbh Going to spec shadow again though now I can take Meditation without needing tier 2 set bonus for the mana regen. Starting to wonder how much dmg I would do though with Power Infusion + ZHC + ToEP But since I dont have either trinket and hate cooldown pvp I doubt I will... Only spend 2 mins on it but probably going for something like this: www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/priests2/talents.html?50022213300000020000000000000000502324103511031Only loose Mental Strentgh and Spiritual Healing for raiding but both are overrated imo since they dont take into account your mana from items or +healing on them (so they help on a priest in lvl 50 greens the most...) If pvp is too boring still I might even go raid shadow spec and try convince people I should be doing dps in raids Sorry Tical ;D ah yeah there it is! kewl :-) in that case! w00t priest imba yeah! :-))) and well 20% less aggro on heals will be handy with razorgore.
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Post by William on Feb 24, 2006 5:56:27 GMT -5
Dont you Mayhem folks put your priests on the chairs where Razorgore spawns untill phase 2 starts?? ;D We had a rogue kite half the room last time on one of the first attempts, if your kiters need healing just tell them to bandage like we do
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Post by William on Feb 24, 2006 6:24:27 GMT -5
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Post by Bleeker on Feb 24, 2006 6:26:14 GMT -5
Dont you Mayhem folks put your priests on the chairs where Razorgore spawns untill phase 2 starts?? ;D We had a rogue kite half the room last time on one of the first attempts, if your kiters need healing just tell them to bandage like we do lol no they dont. although i`d prefer of course! 10 gold repair costs after the last attempt(4 wipes yikes! hehe) and if the kiters stop for bandies wont they get interrupted? think ill make this setup on Everard : www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/priests2/talents.html?05020000000000020335103202015510502300100000000
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Post by Bleeker on Feb 24, 2006 6:30:32 GMT -5
hardly ever if at all use greater heal. only the lvl two heal for mana conservation but not even that much so pretty useless. I`m going to miss being able to shield every 15 secs btw. that plus scream is main defence for me :/
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Post by Dyna / Lucifa on Feb 24, 2006 6:58:48 GMT -5
i went for wands Levi cause im gonna be slightly pvp specced so bit more dps while im OOM be nice, remember i have that pwnage Wand From ZG
btw Lightwell at max rank is 1600 hp and not 800
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Post by Bleeker on Feb 24, 2006 7:06:01 GMT -5
oh scratch that seems Weakened soul effect now lasts 15secs without talents. brilliant! :-))
and hmm 1600 makes it quite a bit more intresting than 800 :/
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Post by tical aka bruise on Feb 24, 2006 7:08:49 GMT -5
lightweel rules for BWL fights, broodlord, firemaw, ebonroc, chromaggus. and then again on emeriss (emerald dragon).
being able to just step out of LoS/Range and click on a moonwell will make fights a lot easier.
the talk about greater heal... noone ever uses it in high end raids. 3 seconds without a heal is dangerous, and most bosses do imba burst damage, you need your tanks spammed with flash heal all the time.
most priests i know wont be going for power infusion. its all about spiritual guidance.
fuck shadow builds, one u have the zandalarian hero badge, and the aegis of preservation, ur unkillable anyway
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Post by William on Feb 24, 2006 7:11:29 GMT -5
Just kidding about the bandies Bleek Ive seen a video where the priests just sit down on the chairs in phase 1 though but I doubt that was their first attempt. The shield is now allways 15 sec cooldown so thats a nice bonus (it cant be all bad! ;D) Dyna wand dps vs any other class you loose unless they are on <500 hp in which case normal wand dmg would do AH we woke up Tical ^^ Like I said Tic Gheal will still suck it heals for too much and is too slow to risk 90% of the time. I use it atm during Arlokk while healing the Phanter tanks becouse allways FHeal is boring... Even with 500 spirit that would only give you 125 more healing/dmg using Spiritual guidance? Ill keep it in mind but it doesnt sound that great to me
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Post by Bleeker on Feb 24, 2006 7:20:45 GMT -5
heheh well dunno lev...EK...pallys tanking...rogues kiting...bandies sounded plausible ;D And aye! 15 secs standard with + 15% damage to be taken. i like it :-)) now they only need to make it so you can psychic scream every sec cause i think priests are highly underpowered now! :-))) tical i see yer point on the lightwell. only thing that still bothers me is the 2 mins timer. Thats short on most of these boss fights isnt it?
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Post by Dyna / Lucifa on Feb 24, 2006 7:28:15 GMT -5
yea maybe levi ive never had wand dps inc so not sure what extra that would add. just thought vs another caster and ya both oom might be handy
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