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Post by XarManix on Feb 2, 2006 18:08:17 GMT -5
Tical my boyfriend ive often wished so but unfortunatley he turns me down u thick stupid c u n t ofcourse i never seen a good druid tank because no-one in there right fukkin mind lets them do it. U need to learn to read aswell u dumb fuck
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Post by XarManix on Feb 2, 2006 18:12:00 GMT -5
I was infact referring to the onslaught Af gave Tical at the beginning of his post tbh did i mention Meuh slagging him off i think not so please either stfu or i'll tea bag u decision is yours.....
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Post by SusanSl on Feb 2, 2006 19:07:09 GMT -5
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Post by ned on Feb 2, 2006 20:06:38 GMT -5
Most reasons why you wont see a good druid tank is this.. 1) Most big guilds like to force spec 2) Most guild's only want to use shamen/paladins/druids/preist's as healer's (because healing is something thats important) 3) There are WAY to many warriors on each server.. 4) Most druid's have been basicly "forced" to heal there way through the game, not only from ppl just wanting them to heal, but also from the abuse thay normaly get when thay dont want to heal or want to get some decent melee item's. The 4 rule's to being a good tank. 1) hold agro, be it one mob or many.. this is something im realy good at, my limited tool's give me just what i need to do this very well because of how powerfull thay are. 2) staying alive, With more hp than warrior's and more armour.. its pretty gdam hard for me to actualy die, 2 big crit's? np.. thay dont hit me anywere near as hard as a warrior and i have more hp. I efectivly handle taking the damage, were as a warrior has to "rely" on avoidance(defence) and hope these 2 big crits never come (or thay more than likly eat the dirt). 3) Knowing you encounter, swaping bits of armour, using diff pots, knowing the best times to use what skill's blabla is something every good tank should know (unless ofc hes still learning a fight). 4) Faith in your healer's, i can go crazy in ubrs and hold agro on about 6mob's knowing that my healer's will be there and ready to keep me alive, thay also know that im there and ready to instatly pull any agro away from them. So what if a warrior takes 1-5% less damage on one fight, so what if i tanke 1-5% less damage on another... at the end of the day, as long as i can do the job and keep my group/raid safe then realy what is the problem?.. not letting someone tank that rolled a druid for the sole purpose for tanking (like me) is bascily you telling me how to play a game i "pay" for. If u only want your druids to "heal" when its something thay dont like and didnt roll a druid for.. then i sigest that you pay them a wage, because your basicly taking the fun away from the game and turning it into a job. Also if warriors were only made to be tank's.. then i suggest that you tell blizzard to nerf thre DPS ability.. because thay are taking over the roll of a rogue in that case, but if its ok for a "warrior" to take a rogues job.. then wtf is wrong with a druid doing a "warrior" job? I meen i dont see the preist's complaining when a druid is healing
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Post by Kantor on Feb 2, 2006 20:23:23 GMT -5
Druid with below 350 defence:
'Nefarians shadow flame crits you for 7400' 'Nefarian crits you for 4000' 'Nefarian crits you for 3700' 'You die'
in the space of one second,amazing situation that will be.
Sure druids can tank some situations well but all of the BWL bosses except Broodlord hit with spells and 75% melee migration is not going to stop Vael unleashing a 6k flame breath on you.
After you master BWL you could run it through with druids tanking but until then i would seriously go with warriors.
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Post by XarManix on Feb 2, 2006 20:24:51 GMT -5
I agree with Meuh that if he wants to tank then he should be allowed all i was saying is that druids are not as good as warriors. There not end of otherwise if they could do sick dps tank and heal why wud u even need warriors priests and rogues there a mixture of both and not designed to be better in any otherwise theyd be seriosuly imba.
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Post by pwned on Feb 2, 2006 20:28:32 GMT -5
I was infact referring to the onslaught Af gave Tical at the beginning of his post tbh did i mention Meuh slagging him off i think not so please either stfu or i'll tea bag u decision is yours..... Hey gayboy,learn to spell before you reply you inbred monkey.
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Post by XarManix on Feb 2, 2006 20:38:07 GMT -5
Coming from the brilliant grammatical use of the no exsistent word gayboy who's inbred now
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Post by ned on Feb 2, 2006 20:52:40 GMT -5
Druid with below 350 defence: 'Nefarians shadow flame crits you for 7400' 'Nefarian crits you for 4000' 'Nefarian crits you for 3700' 'You die' dosnt he turn druids into little kitty's anyway? duno about u.. but i wouldnt be wanting agro when im a little bitty pussy cat But yer.. i allready agreed on the armour thing, ITS alot harder for me to get decent tank gear, and its even harder to get the same type of gear with resistance's (warriors get lots of this stuff so its np with them) This isnt a problem with the druid tanking, its a problem with poor druid itemisation that ive had to put up with since i started this game ..... if there was leather version of the warrior armour then all would be =. Again i didnt state i was better than a warrior, but in some situations im just as good and others i can be better.. mix damage fights is one place a warrior has an advantage. If its a FR/Physical fight im pretty much sorted for that, but gettin decent tank shadow resist gear for a druid is realy quite impossable atm.. im shure a warrior can get a decent ar/shadow/defence suit allready . Anyway one thing you have to remember... dont think a druid will be crit for the same damage as you , we will be crit for quite a bit less.. (we get hit more often but for less damage) and even tho it could be easyer to heal a druid and keep him alive i again allready stated that a druid could take more healing over the whole fight (because warriors avoide alot). I dont tank alldays anyway.. because normaly we have to many warriors with us and i go dps because im pretty darn good at that, but i will look at how a mob is doing damage and stuff.. and if i think its worth me trying it (to see if its easyer) then i will sugest it and try, my guild knows i can tank pretty darn well.. so thay dont have to worry about me screwing up. A good exsample of a druid in work.... Your doing onyxia.. for some reason your tank gose down, druid shifts out of kitty and tanks it till the next phase np (no healing problems, no agro problems, no position problem's). When i was tanking rag, after a knockback i actualy rezed a dps char, and i even healed myself when i landed.. or on the way or during tanking the son's... these are just some of the "cool" things a druid tank can do that a warrior cant (warrior have other good tool's). If u want to compare me directly in "gear" wise to a warrior... then you would have to get a warrior to use a mixture of blue/epic pvp based item's for tanking, i can bet you that the warrior wouldnt realy be that much of a effetive tank because warriors relay heavly on defence.
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Post by pwned on Feb 2, 2006 20:56:21 GMT -5
Coming from the brilliant grammatical use of the no exsistent word gayboy who's inbred now Maybe you should use spell check in the future? That's right, your word "exsistent" is in fact no existent .... now you better run back to your cave before you make an even bigger fool out of yourself, you inbred monkey.
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Post by usofull offshit on Feb 3, 2006 0:32:03 GMT -5
Without meaning to be rude but u faggots dont have any right to say anything about Tical. Fact the guild he is in has done much better in this game than any of the guilds any of u idiots are in. Fact Pritty much all guilds use warriors to tank and theres a reason to that because there better thats all it is. By even attempting to say there not is idiotic because these guilds you always read about such as Nerfed etc have achieved things that mayhem could only dream of achieveing. So i think its safe to say Warriors are better than druids and imho Ned's only getting uptight because he plays a druid. And this is an impartial class posting here so stfu please Xar 60 priest. Yeah he has done well. But thats purley to the fact he spent alot off time reading tacts and has inforced his guild to take on rolls they might not want to take but to be part off this group they have no choice. So if u call playng a game like a job doing well then yes hes great. But at what cost is the question u coul never understand the meaning off fun caue tbh your just robots to the system so yes keep on saying others can only dream and others will keep on posting every time they prove u wrong. So grats we have no problem makeing u look and sound like a idiot time and time again so feel happy about the fact a moron is all u will ever amount 2.
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Post by XarManix on Feb 3, 2006 9:04:57 GMT -5
Im fairly sure i didnt once mention playing wow like doing a job so why have u quoted me? And whoever pwned is who fails to put char name and hides behind the name of pwned and then has the cheek to pick at my spelling when he calls himself pwned which is not even a word is a bit of an idiot. I said earlier im glad Meuh enjoys tanking but all i said was that they dont do it as good as warriors
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Post by Darmanmage on Feb 4, 2006 3:13:03 GMT -5
Im fairly sure i didnt once mention playing wow like doing a job so why have u quoted me? And whoever pwned is who fails to put char name and hides behind the name of pwned and then has the cheek to pick at my spelling when he calls himself pwned which is not even a word is a bit of an idiot. I said earlier im glad Meuh enjoys tanking but all i said was that they dont do it as good as warriors I think u find u insulted mayhem over and over in your post. So maybe its u that needs to learn to read my friend. It was tical and co that keep telling us we coudnt do stuff cause we didnt spec right or have enough off one class and we would fail all the time. So forgive me when i say fu and get a clue before u mouth off on boards u silly moron.But as i said to u guys its a job to us its some fun with friends. If u dont see that then all u got to do is ask why where all alts or people below level 50 kicked from the guild? Have fun moron and once again know what your talking about and have a fucking clue before posting
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Post by Mordrin on Feb 4, 2006 6:41:13 GMT -5
Grats to Mayhem for killing rag and grats to Exiled Knewbs for downing Onyxia (maybe make a new post about that instead of trying to hijack this one?).
Imba druids for the win. We have one druid in NS that loves to show off his skills in tanking and damage dealing and he is quite good at it and have some nice equipment for it too. He would have no problem tanking Onyxia/MC/ZG and so on ... But if he would say he would like to make a try to tank Valeztras no one would take him seriously, and I dont think he would survive more than a few seconds on Firemaw ... I dont say it would be impiossible, I even think it would be cool if a druid manage to tank thoose bosses, but in the end they would do more good standing in the back and heal the "real" tanks.
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Post by ned on Feb 5, 2006 8:18:36 GMT -5
Just to show druid can DPS,HEAL,TANK go read this.. forums-en.wow-europe.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-druid-en&t=112923&p=1&tmp=1#post11292334druids killed onyxia.. now let me see another class pull that off, it just gose to show just how underestimated druid are Im not gonna bother about MC. In bwl I tanked, all trash vael broodlord chromaggus and as solo tank on one side of the zerg at nefarion using 10.5k hitpoints and 15k armor when fully buffed... Im in a pure pve guild currently farming bwl We have realized druids are very very usefull as tanks as our aggro is far superior to warriors meaning dps can go harder and thereby shortening the time it takes to clear bwl. Limmet from A few Good Men, Dunemaul server. So what was that about bwl again?
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